Fastest Recorded Speeding Ticket

[JasonZX6R]

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthtribune/news/local/9728246.htm

[Tuna6]

if i was that hp in the sky i would have let the guy go just for putting on the show. 205mph on a highway without incountering another vehicle. What kind of bike was this guy on? I busa with NOS???

[JasonZX6R]

I think he was on one of "Franks Fiddy's" Rental Bikes ....


:)

[Tiffany]

That story was on Two Wheel Tuesday last night and they said he was riding a Honda 1000.

[Shel600RR]

**** IT JAMIE! I told you--no more triple digits unless you are on the track!

[JasonZX6R]

Tell him, if he does it again, we are going to put those pink flames on his bike ! :)

[mercutio80]

There's no way he was running that fast. I imagine a good lawyer will be able to tear this down.

[BromR1]

i can't stop smiling after reading that. I would love to break that record but i will have to wait until i get a bigger bike and a **** load of money to bail me out of jail. oh well dreams sometimes have to wait.

[TheYellowDark]

How can they give you tickets baised on someone's ability to hit a stopwatch at the right time. Seems extreamly unreliable. They have the money to spend on a State Patrol airplane, but they can't invest in the equipment to give an acurate speed rating? Could be something to do with a radar can't give an acurate reading from a moving airplane, but come on......A STOPWATCH?

[SpeedyCycles]

LOL. If your gonna do it, go BIG. I cannot believe he was not taken away in hand-cuffs.

And, no that bike would not do a real 200 MPH. NO, I mean NO production bike has broken 200 that I know of. If I remember the calculations, at 190 you need around 160 HP to split the air, to reach 195 you need like 190 HP, to get 200 you need something big like 225 HP. Even those 400 + HP Busa's only do around 220 MPH.

I think a stock 1000rr does 172 MPH, does anyone else have an exact magazine/test top speed for this bike?

Did you guys hear about that kid on the CBR600 F4i that was accused (ticketed) of doing 165 MPH? He sold his bike, jacket, gloves, and an autographed ticket for big bucks on eBay ($10,000 +).


Frank

[01R1_rider]

With enough mods on the honda 1000 im sure you could get to 200 mph... and in missouri they do the same thing with the stop watch... dunno but it holds up in court... its your word verses a state patrol, and pretty much they win... because even if your lawyer argues that it wasnt that accurate, then chances are you were still doing 180 or so ... and thats still a ticket haha

[SpeedyCycles]

Yeah, but IMHO, if they cannot tell you an accurate speed within 30 MPH of the bikes capability (per magazine tests with PRO riders) then it should be thrown out. Just my opinion.

I have looked for the 1000rr top speed, haven't found it yet. Can anyone find it?


One place I looked for top speed stats was www.RoadracingWorld.com, and guess what, I found another article, and here is a snip:

"At post time, Roadracingworld.com was unable to contact the rider to determine what laws of physics had been repealed, allowing him to get a streetbike to go 205 mph." - Roadracing World

LMAO. Nice one. ;) :imp

[srtpntman]

This was on Two Wheel Tuesday. Greg White said it was a Honda 1000, and was really doubting the accuracy of the violation. Unless this guy had lots of Nos, Turbo, or really geared his bike high, it's pretty much impossible for that bike to hit that kind of speed.....according to Greg White of Speed Vision. The Moto GP bikes which near the 1 million dollar mark in cost, just now this season hit the 200 mph mark.

[01R1_rider]

yeah i agree with ya, i meant a whooole lotta mods, either way seems rediculous ... and thats what ya get for road racing at least they both lived

[old-honda-guy]

I can't imagine this guy going to court to fight this ticket. This is his 15 minutes of fame... you've got to ride this wave all of the way to shore. He's already been mentioned on Two Wheel Tuesday. He may get a call from Leno. Even if it goes no further he will always be a legend with the homies. You wouldn't want to ruin that. As for the money, just think, If a 600 going 165 brings $10,000 a 1000 going 205 might bring $20,000 on ebay!!

As a matter of fact... that's how my bike got the number 240 on it....'Yhaa' I was like going 240 and stuff in....like Florida 'Yhaa' Florida. I didn't get caught or anything but it was in all of the papers and there still looking for me in... like Florida and stuff. Since I couldn't put the bike back on the street I made track bike out of it, 'Yhaa' a track bike, that's the ticket. And I put the number 240 on it just to remind me of the time I did 240 on a 400 in...like Florida 'Yhaa' Florida.

Wow, a 400 going 240 in Florida... That should be worth something on Ebay!! :eek:
I have to got put my bike on Ebay now.

This is going to be great!! :bdnce :bdnce

[4Given-Squid]

$10,000 for a bike and all your gear, including the autographed ticket. Don't seem like too good of a deal to me. I think I'll settle for blowing past the Orange Ninja. He says he was doing 158mph, My SVs sez he was chained to a fence post.


:Bsflag

[old-honda-guy]

If you do the math he went 1/4 of a mile in 4.39 seconds so that would be going a mile in 17.56 seconds and there are 3600 seconds in an hour. So you divide 3600 by 17.56 and you come up with 205 MPH.

If the guy with the stop watch was only off by .61 of a second it makes the 1/4 mile time 5.00. So 20.00 seconds to go a mile and 3600 divided by 20.00 equals 180 MPH. That's a 25 mile an hour difference.

A car going 60 MPH goes a mile every 60 seconds or 15 seconds to go 1/4 of a mile. If the guy with the stop watch makes a .61 second mistake and clocks the person going 1/4 of a mile in 14.39 seconds that would be 57.56 seconds to go a mile and 3600 divided by 57.56 equals 62.5 MPH. That's only a 2.5 mile an hour difference and those are the speeds they are use to dealing with. It's probably not uncommon to make a .61 second mistake but when your trying to clock someone going 180 it makes a big difference.

I agree with the guy's who said it's just a mistake make by the guy with the stop watch.

I still think the rider should just Pay the Man!!.... PAY THE MAN!! Go into the books as the first rider to get a ticket above 200. Five years from now when there are a dozen bikes that will top 200 off the show room floor, no one will remember that they use to make bikes that would not go 200+

[SpeedyCycles]

There is some good reading on one of the Stuntlife forums:

http://stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1090179#post1090179

Looks like the bike *may* have been a modded RC51, in a sheriffs letter, there was mention of a turbo shop, etc. Hmmm.

Frank

[Beau "Bo"]

this months issue of motocyclist features a modified production cbr1000rr that has a top speed of 200 mph

[zedx]

Originally posted by srtpntman
This was on Two Wheel Tuesday. Greg White said it was a Honda 1000, and was really doubting the accuracy of the violation. Unless this guy had lots of Nos, Turbo, or really geared his bike high, it's pretty much impossible for that bike to hit that kind of speed.....according to Greg White of Speed Vision. The Moto GP bikes which near the 1 million dollar mark in cost, just now this season hit the 200 mph mark.

You guys really have time to watch TWT with all that goes on at Fox and Hound?? I'm impressed!!

[Jamie1000RR]

Hey guys I don't think he would have to have that much mods on that bike cause I've had mine up to 190 and it has no mods so thats just 15 mph more.

[mercutio80]

You've had yours up to an indicated 190. Unless you have a speedo correcter, your stock speedometer is probably inaccurate. The faster you go, the less accurate it is.

[HzrdousAddictns]

true

[zedx]

Originally posted by Jamie1000RR
Hey guys I don't think he would have to have that much mods on that bike cause I've had mine up to 190 and it has no mods so thats just 15 mph more.


mercutio80 is correct your speedometer is incorrect. It is pretty much imposible to have a correct reading because of the profile of a motorcycle tire. the speed is measured by the circumference of the tire but when you lean the tire over any you change the circumference then you have the fact that all tires dont have the same shape, some are more pointed. and did you replace your tires with the same one that came on the bike as stock.

now the "just 15 mph more" Frank is right. "I" don't know the numbers but I do know that you have to have alot more poneis to go that fast. how long did it take you to get from 170 to 190? I would bet that you got from 20 to 100 in less time than that last 20 mph.

[1KRR]

1KRR top speed by mags is about 174mph. Some of the guys at 1000rr.net have recorded 174 on their stock bikes, but consider any possible factor speedo error and your are looking at anywhere from a true 160 to 174.
I registered 161 on mine at Barber, but I have some gearing changes as well. Realistically down the front stretch was probably moving 140-145, cause was still in 5th gear but topped out.
I have gone down 1 in the front and up 2 in the rear.
I think that 205 is wash. Even with possible NOS and such.

[01R1_rider]

ive hit an idicated 180 and i know it wasnt that fast, i cant imagine you going 190..im impressed, and like they've said 15 mph is a whooooole lot to make up... i forget what bike it was but this company was testing to make it break 200 and the kept adding hp and more hp and more hp and it wouldnt work, then they took it to a wind tunnel with the rider on it and realized that they finally got the hp but they didnt have the aero dynamics to break the 200 mph point... so its ALOT more than just 15 mph... is a WHOOOOLE lot of different things at that speed

[SpeedyCycles]

This was taken from the Stuntlife forum, and appearantly it was an RC51, so even further from reaching 205 MPH.


<snip>
Mr. Tilley apparently works at a shop that specializes in supercharging motorcycles, and his bike is, according to the police, custom. The big Hondas are certainly capable of such high speeds under modification, and apparently this guy has (or had?) one. But it is definitely possible he will contest the stopwatch clocking, not that it really matters. So what if he was driving 180, not 205? At that speed, it make little difference legally.

Hank Shaw
Staff Writer
Pioneer Press
345 Cedar St
St Paul, MN 55101 <snip>

[stupidhawk]

I am gonna lean towards the dumb old bastard saw the wrong mark on the road. I am sure he was off with the watch a little too, but if he was watching the wrong mark, he may have measured an 1/8th mile instead of 1/4. He said he had 27 years experience, making him all but 50. Basically one foot in the grave. Old bastard can't see, and has teh reaction time of a slug on pain killers. this is almost comical, I can't believe they actually write tickets b/c of what some dumb ass gets with his stopwatch. you pigs may disagree. I also had a cop tell me one time that he can observe someones time over a given distance and write a ticket from that. No watch, no measurement at all. is that true??

[mercutio80]

The reaction time of a slug on painkillers would make the speed SLOWER, not faster.

By the way, somebody is posting on sportbikes.net and claiming to be the kid. He says it was an RC51 with no mods other than slipon mufflers.

[stupidhawk]

i was thinking more of the guy missing the first mark, starting the clock halfway past the mark, and the old man getting excited and stopping the clock early. I also like how whatever the cop says is entered in court as assumed fact. Anyone with common sense knows how rediculous it is that a RC51 can do 205.

[srtpntman]

Hmmm, 50 is dumb old and slow, hmmmm. Well you're assuming since he has 27 years of experience you figure that makes him 50, why is that? He could have started his career when he was 21 or even 20 when he joined the academy. That would make him 48 or possibly 47. But I guess that would still make him a slow dumb bastard. Perhaps you should come out to range some time with me and show this old slow bastard how quick your reactions are. I like the way you attack the officer for doing his job rather then the guy doing 200, 180 or whatever he was doing. Would have like this guy to plow into the back of your wife or girlfriend's car, or perhaps the side of the car due to her misjudging the speed of the bike and pulling out in front of him. The results being he kills her or your child. Do the math on the kinetic energey. 450 bike, 160 pound average rider equals a total of 610 lbs traveling at lets say 170 mph? I'd say around 34,550 lbs of energy coming at you.

[stupidhawk]

OK, that bike, assuming stock or bolt ons might hit 170. Maybe. He might not have been an old dumb bastard, but he was in the wrong. That bike wasn't going that fast period. I wasn't trying to be a ****, but I have been on the receiving end of a cop in the wrong who wouldn't admit it and it almost cost me 30 years of my life or my life at the time. A couple guys here know that story, its not worth getting into. I guess I just don't see why they didn't simply say woah, that can't be right, have a nice day. yeah he was speeding. Since they later caught him going 100, why not hit him with that?? I have probably had better experiences with older cops. THe one that tried to take my life was in his 20s. It has been my general experience that law enforcement officers are very reluctant to admit fault or error. Claiming a RC51 was going 205 is a pretty good example. I have wanted an RC51 since they came out, if that guy has one that will do a legit 205, I will crawl backward to WI to get it.

[old-honda-guy]

Originally posted by srtpntman
Hmmm, 50 is dumb old and slow, hmmmm. Well you're assuming since he has 27 years of experience you figure that makes him 50, why is that? He could have started his career when he was 21 or even 20 when he joined the academy. That would make him 48 or possibly 47. But I guess that would still make him a slow dumb bastard. Perhaps you should come out to range some time with me and show this old slow bastard how quick your reactions are. I like the way you attack the officer for doing his job rather then the guy doing 200, 180 or whatever he was doing. Would have like this guy to plow into the back of your wife or girlfriend's car, or perhaps the side of the car due to her misjudging the speed of the bike and pulling out in front of him. The results being he kills her or your child. Do the math on the kinetic energey. 450 bike, 160 pound average rider equals a total of 610 lbs traveling at lets say 170 mph? I'd say around 34,550 lbs of energy coming at you.

This is what happens!!

[Jamie1000RR]

Yes I have had my speedo corrected

[SpeedyCycles]

Yeah, if a bullet ever went in my shirt and didn't kill me, and all the cop said was "Um, hey, sorry about that, I uhh, guess I was trying to kill the wrong guy" I prolly wouldn't like cops either.

My experience has been good, cops have been fair to me IMHO. If I get shot tonight, put this in my epitaph. ;)


Frank

[stupidhawk]

Thanks Franky, its a little harder to have an open mind now than it used to be. That and the mess that occurred with a sheriff in a county very near here. It seems as though there was some major corruption and scheming going on there. When the states attorney general makes a case against him, you gotta think not everything was kosher. I consider myself lucky to be alive, and not a day goes by I don't think about that. If so, all I have to do is look at my door, and tailgate. Cops are just doin a job, like all jobs, some do better than others. It takes four years of college and 6 months of supervised training to become a teacher. To get a gun and teh legal authority to use it in the name of the law takes what 6 weeks maybe 8?? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also, after those 6 weeks, you get a piece and a piece of brass tacked to your chest and your testimony is enough to take someones life away by putting them in prison. Something is a little off there.

[srtpntman]

Well the minimum for the state is 600 hrs of training, that's the minimum. We give our officers six months of class, 40 hrs. a week, then 13 weeks of working with another officer on patrol. Some depts. settle for 600 hrs because they can't afford the extra training. I agree with you, yes there are bad cops and good cops, I hope more are good then bad, but please don't paint everyone with the same brush when you have a bad experience.

[Fisdu]

Originally posted by srtpntman
I agree with you, yes there are bad cops and good cops, I hope more are good then bad, but please don't paint everyone with the same brush when you have a bad experience.

Kinda like what is happening to sport bike riders, there are a few bad apples out there and they are giving all of us a bad rep.

[Berserker]

the ticket:

[gixxxer351]

I'm sure he can get something from honda to prove the bike doesn't run that fast and have the ticket throun out or at least reduced to 125 over instead of a 140.........Hehehe......He's so F***ked.:eek: :D

[stupidhawk]

Originally posted by srtpntman
Well the minimum for the state is 600 hrs of training, that's the minimum. We give our officers six months of class, 40 hrs. a week, then 13 weeks of working with another officer on patrol. Some depts. settle for 600 hrs because they can't afford the extra training. I agree with you, yes there are bad cops and good cops, I hope more are good then bad, but please don't paint everyone with the same brush when you have a bad experience.


Ok, so even 600 hours. 40 hrs a week, thats 15 weeks. Or three months. 3 months. It takes longer to get through welding school. To be a nurse takes 2 years. The nurse can't give medicine, can't order procedures, basically can't do anything but follow direct orders from a doctor. After 3 months, you get a gun, a car, a badge and all the authority to use em. Shoot at people, testify against them, arrest them. Ruin peoples lifes and end peoples lives after his 3 months of training. I still find it ironic that before we let someone teach kids their ABCs they have 4 years of education and 6 months of supervision. Before we give them a loaded gun and the legal authority to use it at their discretion takes 3 months.

[Ike]

Hate to step in on a glorious argument, toe steppin contest, door slammin' party...but, I'm afraid the horse be dead.:D

It be Friday;) Anyone for movin' on to smiles, Jimmy Buffet tunes (Beach Boys for Jason) and drinks.:D

[Tiffany]

I'm SOOOO with you, Ike. Moving on now.

[JasonZX6R]

Originally posted by Ike
Jimmy Buffet tunes (Beach Boys for Jason)


:D :D The east coast girl are really hip, I really dig the styles they wear....., and the southern girls......with the way they talk.......they knock me out when im down there..... , the midwest farmers daughters really make you feel alright.... , and the northern girls with the way they kiss... they keep there boyfriends warm at night...... , I wish they all could be california girlsssssss....... :D :D

[SpeedyCycles]

I cannot WAIT to see that bike on eBay! lol. A 205 MPH RC-51! Woooo, that is a stretch huh?

Ward,

Frank

[stupidhawk]

Like I said, I would gladly crawl backwards to get it if it will do 205. I wasn't trying to bring down the mood here, sorry. It always seems like the POPO are above suspicion. Instead of seeing how the error was made, they try to justify how it might do it since he works at a bike shop. If he got his RC51 to do 205, I bet honda is sending a private plance right now to his house to give him a 6 figure salary as an engineer. :) It is friday, and I will be having a great weekend, hope you all do too.

[zedx]

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[srtpntman]

Ok, my last comment. How many weeks does a marine train before they hand him an automatic rifle and turn him loose to kill the enemy? That 600 hrs is the minimum which is shameful I agree, that's why our academy is over 1000 hrs plus the field training time. Okay, now someone hand me some Jose and let's just agree to disagree.:bow

[gixxxer351]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by srtpntman
[B]How many weeks does a marine train before they hand him an automatic rifle and turn him loose to kill the enemy?

13 And you become a lean mean killing machine who's born to fight, and trained to kill, ready to die, but never will. SEMPER FI!!!!

[stupidhawk]

Killing the "enemy" I would think is different than shooting or imprisoning a tax paying citizen, but I do commend your department for going above and beyond the mandate requirements. Its a step in the right direction. I have also met several people at school who are getting bachelors degrees in criminal justice before pursuing a career in law enforcement. My hat's off to them as well. Wish there were more of em. :)

[Firemann]

According to several posts on the R1-Forum it's a fake story. Anyway my R1's speedo is off by 4 mph at 70 according to my GPS (Speedo reads 74/GPS reads 70)

[Busa Steve]

http://www.suzukihayabusa.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33930

[TJ FAST]

200 mph is not that hard if you have a busa. A stock busa can run up to 196 mph. Go up one tooth in the front and they can hit 210-212. A honda 1000 would need a turbo kit to do it. 200 on a bike is not that hard. Mr turbo hit 225 or 235 back in the early 90's with a turbo/nos ZX-11.

[Tom]

damn, this just might be one of the oldest thread revivals I've ever seen

Tom

[SpeedyCycles]

An oldie but a goodie.

Kind of ironic to see Stupidhawk and Jack arguing about cop stuff, and now Jack is in jail.

[BRAD]

I heard a guy tell me he had a 205 mph stockish CBR929/954 once.

[Tom]

Sometimes getting old isn't all that bad.

Once when I was filling the FZ1 up at the gas station on 76 in Forsyth, back in spring of '03, a gaggle of teenage kids swarmed up to the bike as I went inside to pay. I smiled a bit, because I used to be one of those kids. Upon walking up to the bike....

Kids: (breathlessly, all at once with great excitement) "HEY HOW FAST DOES IT GO!!!???"

Me: (deadpan) "As fast as you want"

Kids: "Huh!?"

Me, deadpan again: "I said, as fast as you want to go"

Again with the "huh?"

Me again with the same deadpan voice "as fast as you want to go"

Kids: "uhhh/errr/stuttering.....(*click*) AHHHHH"

:)


Tom

[Beau "Bo"]

This thread is all wrong to begin with. Fastest speeding ticket was 242 MPH to a guy with a Koenigsegg CC driving in Texas for the 2003 Gumball rally.

[mercutio80]

This thread is all wrong to begin with. Fastest speeding ticket was 242 MPH to a guy with a Koenigsegg CC driving in Texas for the 2003 Gumball rally.

This was for a motorcycle, though.

[JOS51700]

Wow, there are a lot of people that aren't on this site anymore.

Oh, and I have had guys tell me that a ZZR600 tops out at 190 and does power wheelies in 6th.

I got some bad eggs for breakfast, I'm outta here.

[bimmerjo]

Oh, and I have had guys tell me that a ZZR600 tops out at 190 and does power wheelies in 6th.

Duh, you didn't know?!

[TJ FAST]

oh bewlsh!t.
Wow you just now posted? Sorry dude it was in cycle world or one of the other bike magazines years back.But a stock 99-00 busa did 196mph. I can't believe this is still on here. Don't be a BUSA hater. :dblfng