Clutching the bike up...

[EvilJames]

Ok so I ve been working on that whole wheeliee thing on my f4i for a while now. I seeming can get the front wheel off the ground in 1st gear with not too much of an issue. but i seem to have an issue trying to clutch the damn thing up...so I could use some help learning how to clutch the damn thing. who wants to help? when it is warmer...lol :sick

[Wes4386]

more gas

[Wes4386]

stand on the rear peg and clutch the piss out of it

[Prana]

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[IQRaceworks]

Ok so I ve been working on that whole wheeliee thing on my f4i for a while now. I seeming can get the front wheel off the ground in 1st gear with not too much of an issue. but i seem to have an issue trying to clutch the damn thing up...so I could use some help learning how to clutch the damn thing. who wants to help? when it is warmer...lol :sick

Could you please translate that into English for me.....

[Prana]

Sounds like he can power wheelie (which is very dangerous esp. if you don't have good throttle control) but not clutch it up.

[IQRaceworks]

I've always thought that dropping the clutch and "clutching" the bike up was way harder to control that just rolling on the gas and powering it up. When ever I've clutched my bike up, it comes up so fast it's hard to control it.

I'm sure a 600 is way different than a liter bike though. I can just roll on the gas and get the front to come up....it's pretty easy. :D

[FRO]

i can help i love clutchn it up

[EvilJames]

yeap i ve watched that video a buncha times but can never get it to work right...not sure what i do wrong...lol that is why i was looking for some direct assitance...

[IQRaceworks]

When I had my 600's, I had a really hard time keeping the front end up. I could get it up, but unless you get it up to the balance point, it's really hard to keep it there. With my 1000......it seems like wheelies are much easier. I can power it up really smooth in 1st or 2nd......and hold it there just by using the gas. It's nice having 150hp on tap if you need it :D

[EvilJames]

maybe i just need a new exhaust on it then? already did the plugs and airfilter thing...and i guess a power commander too...but like i said i can power it up in 1st np and hold it there if i try real hard...cluthing it though...nope...maybe i need to do that conversion thing on the sprockets?

[mrbodydrop]

I've always thought that dropping the clutch and "clutching" the bike up was way harder to control that just rolling on the gas and powering it up. When ever I've clutched my bike up, it comes up so fast it's hard to control it.

I'm sure a 600 is way different than a liter bike though. I can just roll on the gas and get the front to come up....it's pretty easy. :D

This all depends on how high and how far you want to wheelie:

I have to disagree cuz clutching it up is more controlled than roll ons. By clutching it up you can get your bike to balance point faster and easier with less throttling up. By doing that you reduce the risk of hitting "power band" and looping your bike. It is harder to learn clutching up but once learned it is easier.

[IQRaceworks]

maybe i just need a new exhaust on it then? already did the plugs and airfilter thing...and i guess a power commander too...but like i said i can power it up in 1st np and hold it there if i try real hard...cluthing it though...nope...maybe i need to do that conversion thing on the sprockets?


Don't waste your money on exhaust. Sprockets are going to do tons more than exhaust. All you are going to see from a new pipe is more noise. You're not going to see any power gains.

[mrbodydrop]

Ok so I ve been working on that whole wheeliee thing on my f4i for a while now. I seeming can get the front wheel off the ground in 1st gear with not too much of an issue. but i seem to have an issue trying to clutch the damn thing up...so I could use some help learning how to clutch the damn thing. who wants to help? when it is warmer...lol :sick

start low and slow with the clutch. go about 25 to 30 pull in the clutch hit about 6k rpm and dump it. KEEP YOU CLUTCH AND REAR BRAKE COVERED Start there and slowly work your way up in RPM to going a little higher and higher as you feel more comfortable. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GEAR THOUGH

[mrbodydrop]

Don't waste your money on exhaust. Sprockets are going to do tons more than exhaust. All you are going to see from a new pipe is more noise. You're not going to see any power gains.

+1 on sprockets but don't go over board unless you make it a full time stunter. Although most pro stunters are going back to stock gearing on their stunt bikes.

[wooley]

start low and slow with the clutch. go about 25 to 30 pull in the clutch hit about 6k rpm and dump it. KEEP YOU CLUTCH AND REAR BRAKE COVERED Start there and slowly work your way up in RPM to going a little higher and higher as you feel more comfortable. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GEAR THOUGH

And please use a safe area like a nice big unused parking lot to praactice.

[BRAD]

And please use a safe area like a nice big unused parking lot to praactice.


+1.........not impressed seeing it on battlefield

[sstout50]

This all depends on how high and how far you want to wheelie:

I have to disagree cuz clutching it up is more controlled than roll ons. By clutching it up you can get your bike to balance point faster and easier with less throttling up. By doing that you reduce the risk of hitting "power band" and looping your bike. It is harder to learn clutching up but once learned it is easier.

+100.

[sstout50]

maybe i just need a new exhaust on it then? already did the plugs and airfilter thing...and i guess a power commander too...but like i said i can power it up in 1st np and hold it there if i try real hard...cluthing it though...nope...maybe i need to do that conversion thing on the sprockets?

Unless you just want the sound exhuast isnt going to do anything nor do you need to buy things to help get it up. The sprocket kit would be best over all it just takes practice. Once you hit balance point it doesnt matter if you have a 600 or a 1000. More power or a bigger bike just means further power wheelies or an easier loop if your use to 105hp compared to 150+hp. IMO

[CrotchRocketCop]

+1 on sprockets but don't go over board unless you make it a full time stunter. Although most pro stunters are going back to stock gearing on their stunt bikes.

I agree with the sprocket change. I changed mine out on my 600R with a 520 conversion (-1, +2) and was happy with added ability to both power and clutch wheelie. Plus since I didn't go up a LOT of teeth in the rear, I didn't lose much in my top speed. In my opinion, the 520 was worth the money!

[sstout50]

I use the blue pill it seems to help.:D

Gregg :cool:

LOL!! Im going to keep that in mind then:)

[IQRaceworks]

This all depends on how high and how far you want to wheelie:

I have to disagree cuz clutching it up is more controlled than roll ons. By clutching it up you can get your bike to balance point faster and easier with less throttling up. By doing that you reduce the risk of hitting "power band" and looping your bike. It is harder to learn clutching up but once learned it is easier.

When you are at the balance point.......if you give it a little to much gas you are on your back. When I "power up" the front end...I can hold it about 4 feet off of the ground for along time....and I don't have to worry about the bike going back over me because I'm a long way from the balance point.

But I'm just pulling the front up for a few seconds....not really riding a "wheelie" for a long time. I'm to much of a wuss to try that :D

[EvilJames]

start low and slow with the clutch. go about 25 to 30 pull in the clutch hit about 6k rpm and dump it. KEEP YOU CLUTCH AND REAR BRAKE COVERED Start there and slowly work your way up in RPM to going a little higher and higher as you feel more comfortable. ALWAYS WEAR YOUR GEAR THOUGH

tried this as the video suggest and it does not seem to work right for me...i am thinking i am not dumping the clutch fast enough...have to wait for a bit more warmth to try again...

[CrotchRocketCop]

tried this as the video suggest and it does not seem to work right for me...i am thinking i am not dumping the clutch fast enough...have to wait for a bit more warmth to try again...

You gotta slip it and get on the throttle pretty quick...it takes some practice but once you figure it out you'll be wheelin' in no time :D

[bradass24]

put a bigger sprocket on it son!

[turbo900rr]

The best way to learn how to wheelie imho is to borrow/buy a dirt bike and learn on that. Most guys that are good at doing wheelies learned on a dirtbike. Just be sure to take your time and be careful.

[Prana]

Lower your tire pressure some and practice when your gas tank is almost empty. It will make a huge difference. Watch the video again! Don't try to do 12 o'clock wheelies when you can't even get 6 inches off the ground consistantly. The video makes you take small steps which is the safest way to learn.

[EvilJames]

i got no issue getting the bike off the ground in 1st gear by powering it up consistantly. small issue with it keep the front tire in teh air...i am thinking that i may not be able to clutch it up in second for a while. i am thinking of working it in 1st then move on to second...dont know.

how you keep from hurting your man parts when you set the bike down? i must admit i hurt them 1 or 2 times today...lol

[wooley]

It is my understanding that 1st gear wheelies are much more dangerous than clutching up in a higher gear.

[mrbodydrop]

It is my understanding that 1st gear wheelies are much more dangerous than clutching up in a higher gear.

it can be unless you know what you are doing ;)

[mrbodydrop]

i got no issue getting the bike off the ground in 1st gear by powering it up consistantly. small issue with it keep the front tire in teh air...i am thinking that i may not be able to clutch it up in second for a while. i am thinking of working it in 1st then move on to second...dont know.

how you keep from hurting your man parts when you set the bike down? i must admit i hurt them 1 or 2 times today...lol

I wish I had known people were going to be out "playing" today, I might have stopped by to give some pointers:D

[ClayB_600R]

here is the best how-to i have found yet... caution: their threads are backwards from ours...so it starts on the last page and starts at the bottom n goes up n backwards...kinda weird i no...

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/443-stunting-help-advice/72156-complete-guide-learning-basic-27.html

[Wes4386]

i got no issue getting the bike off the ground in 1st gear by powering it up consistantly. small issue with it keep the front tire in teh air...i am thinking that i may not be able to clutch it up in second for a while. i am thinking of working it in 1st then move on to second...dont know.

how you keep from hurting your man parts when you set the bike down? i must admit i hurt them 1 or 2 times today...lol

scoot back

[mrbodydrop]

well your lucky you didnt play where we did. Trespassing tickets



F.T.P.

nice, you will have to let me in on where it was in a PM or something so I don't have to deal with the same thing!!:eek:

[EvilJames]

i think i just need some wisdom from someone who is better at it then i...

[Peg grinder]

ALL I Know is I can hit my bar on the highway in 4th and 5th gear and throw hella spark's.:dblfng Clutch everything,the whole wheelie relies on that 1st POP of the clutch.Don't watch the tach!!!!!!!! This is how people freak,when you freak you panic and **** goes bad.

Go 2 a "safe" spot and do this.....Drop yur rear tire to about 20psi ride around giving your bike gas but riding your rear brake to slow down. Then get out there at about 7 to 15mph and start clutching it lil by lil and keep your rear brake covered.Listen to your rpm's DO NOT WATCH THEM!!!! Keep your head straight and repeat this about 27,000 time's and you'll have it. Your gonna wreck there's not away around that.BE SMARt and buy a cage.

[southside_stunaz]

it takes time but you have to learn your back brake

[EvilJames]

hmmm maybe it is the tire pressure thing as well...i ll lower it when i am gong to be trying it again. still though could use someone who is better then I to help me some...

[FRO]

well i dont know about wheelies but i hear you can ski vary well :tstory:sick:rolling

[EvilJames]

well i dont know about wheelies but i hear you can ski vary well :tstory:sick:rolling

thanks man i had a good time and will just need to go faster the next time...i did one hell of a nice rolling stoppie though and no one got it on camera...sob. once i find that stupid balance point and figure out the damn clutch i will be happier!

[cutiepie]

once i find that stupid balance point and figure out the damn clutch i will be happier!


And hopefully still be alive :dblfng

[Wes4386]

Details please whats the story here?

[EvilJames]

Details please whats the story here?

something about her having a really big life insurance policy on me now... makes me wonder what she is trying to say? :confused: