Stunt Spots

[I8URV8]

Just thought some people might be looking for a good stunt spot, so if you know of one, post it up.

I'm looking for a spot somewhere around monett or aurora (or that area) where i won't get ticketed or have to run. . .so if you can help, please let me know.

And if you're looking for someone to practice with, let me know, i'm relatively new to the area, and just now trying to learn to do wheelies (slow ones). any tips or tricks would be appreciated as well. thanks.

[BRAD]

Just thought some people might be looking for a good stunt spot, so if you know of one, post it up.

I'm looking for a spot somewhere around monett or aurora (or that area) where i won't get ticketed or have to run. . .so if you can help, please let me know.

And if you're looking for someone to practice with, let me know, i'm relatively new to the area, and just now trying to learn to do wheelies (slow ones). any tips or tricks would be appreciated as well. thanks.

Why would you HAVE to?

[I8URV8]

no tags, no insurance. . .don't want a ticket, don't want to go to jail, don't want my bike impounded or something silly like that. . . .i guess i wouldn't "have to run", so i'll say

"be tempted to run" . . . or better yet "end up fleeing"

just looking for a good spot to practice.

[Peg grinder]

In a parking lot you need none of that.

[H2]

Just thought some people might be looking for a good stunt spot, so if you know of one, post it up.

I'm looking for a spot somewhere around monett or aurora (or that area) where i won't get ticketed or have to run. . .so if you can help, please let me know.

And if you're looking for someone to practice with, let me know, i'm relatively new to the area, and just now trying to learn to do wheelies (slow ones). any tips or tricks would be appreciated as well. thanks.

no tags, no insurance. . .don't want a ticket, don't want to go to jail, don't want my bike impounded or something silly like that. . . .i guess i wouldn't "have to run", so i'll say

"be tempted to run" . . . or better yet "end up fleeing"

just looking for a good spot to practice.


PM sent. I wouldn't even try to have this conversation here, as you'll only get grief and BS for it.

[H2]

Disclaimer: And no....it's not cool to run from the police. :chrbeat

[Blackness]

FTP

http://www.thegreat80s.com/images/Bands/ThePolice.jpg

:hmm:hmm

[BRAD]

I'd never............EVER run from Sting.

[Unregistered Mac User]

You may get some PM's with helpful information, but I don't think you'll find any postings containing the information you've requested. It's my understanding that most stunt practice takes place on private property, and usually without the property owner's consent. As such, the stunters here are kind of hush-hush about their stunt locations (to the general public, anyway).

I suspect that if you PM some of the stunters on the site, they'll be more than happy to let you know where you can hook up with them for a practice session.

[patdcop]

I'd never............EVER run from Sting.

You're just in love with his hair.

[Tom]

I can't help you with the low down on local stunt zones, but I gotta ask - you say you have no insurance, and no tags. While you'll be fine on private property with the landowner's permission, what are you going to do when comes time to go home? Or get there? Call Scotty and have him beam you and the bike up? And of course if you DON'T have the landowner's permission, you'll HAVE to leave when he/she calls the local police. It won't be his problem you don't have tags/insurance, you know.

Having been down this road the hard way with cars at least, I really recommend you get that stuff taken care of - I hate paying taxes as much or more than anyone else here but some things are just not worth the hassle. And I personally don't want to get hassled by some cop with a chip on his shoulder because he wrote you up, or worse yet, ran from him.

Tom

[Tom]

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[JOS51700]

MY VOTE is that somebody rent a house with a full-two-car width driveway (PM SpeedyCycles).

All tha stuntaz then meet to stunt in that driveway area. It's private (no hasslin'), it's close to beer (no thirstin'), and stunt'n in that limited area will really benefit your mad stunta skillz (no yut-uggin').

Bonus: You can also drive directly into the house when the garage-door is open.

I got $100 to the first person that can successfully wheelie into the house, then wheelie into the bathroom, and then urinate in the toilet in that bathroom while circle wheelie-ing around said toilet, all without the front wheel ever touching the ground. Handbrakes allowed. Video with genitalia blurred out, or it didn't happen.

[I8URV8]

yeah i see the grief . . .hey look at that a little bs too. . .pm recieved, thanks. . .still looking for a decent spot (preferably one with consent from the land owner). . .for the people that like to give the said bs and grief, give it to someone else, better yet, keep it, no one wants it. How i transport my bike is my business. . . to everyone else, thanks.

You would have thought that instead of beeing a ****, people would atleast respect the fact that i'm not trying to do anything in traffic or on public streets, i guess that doesn't count for anything anymore. . . a stunt section with no respect for stunters. . .wow, i'm impressed.

[patdcop]

You would have thought that instead of beeing a ****, people would atleast respect the fact that i'm not trying to do anything in traffic or on public streets, i guess that doesn't count for anything anymore. . . a stunt section with no respect for stunters. . .wow, i'm impressed.

The only thing I can add would be..................your avatar needs to be recalibrated then. :)

[I8URV8]

no, it's accurate. . .thanks for the concern though.

[Unregistered Mac User]

You would have thought that instead of beeing a ****, people would atleast respect the fact that i'm not trying to do anything in traffic or on public streets, i guess that doesn't count for anything anymore. . . a stunt section with no respect for stunters. . .wow, i'm impressed.

Hey! I'll point out that I completely refrained from my standard "Stuntas are f'n idiots!" comments! :dblfng:D

[I8URV8]

Wow, you guys are awesome. . .:rolleyes:

keep up the good work. . and by good work i mean being idiots. :D

[mercutio80]

You mentioned running from the police then got angry when all the responses weren't what you wanted. Make sense?

I haven't seen anyone around Monett stunting in a long time. I used to have a friend who hung out with a bunch of guys who stunted around Mount Vernon, but they all lost interest when one of them died on the bike. I can ask him where they used to ride the next time I talk to him. I think it was a straight stretch of highway where they could see cars coming from both sides. I guess that wouldn't help you much if you don't have license or insurance on the bike.

[t-rock]

eat a ****, faggot.

[repsolrob]

im trying to find a real/authentic and unmolested mandrake root but am having no such luck:(

[mrbodydrop]

wow and people wonder why so many people don't get on here anymore. good job guys, good job. :rolleyes:

[t-rock]

and the group that sticks around really doesn't care that the rest don't log in.

[Rd1stGenTal]

nobody will tell you where the "safety meetings" go down..so stop being a ***** and hit the streets.. but what do i know? lol

[Rd1stGenTal]

I know right? I'm like, OMG, No one ever gets on here anymore, there's never ANY posts and, LMAO, any entertainment or, like information on here. LOL LOL.



C'mon man, you know from history and from the conservative base of this site, that you're not going to put down a post regarding running from the cops, not having financial liability responsibility, etc...........and not take a little bit of ball breakin.

If you're "hard" enough to run from cops and not take care of getting your bike halfway legal, shouldn't you be enough of a badass to get a little ribbing?

I say to OP.........dry it up and stop acting like a faggot. A bad example of a faggot at that :)

your a ****ing tool! why the **** do you need plates or insurance on a "lot" bike?if its not on public streets, it doesnt require that ****. no wonder nobody posts on this board. you guys talk **** on anyone who isnt part of the kickstand crew. **** YOU! **** THIS SITE! **** THE POLICE! Stay out of the stunt section if you DONT stunt.
BACK TO STUNTRIDE.COM I GO!!!!!!!!

[SpeedyCycles]

Man, and I tried to stay out of this one.

I applaud you for trying to find a safe spot to practice, as I have been in you shoes I know it is not easy. We had a really good spot right in the heart of town until one rider hit hit another rider, sending him to the ER in an ambulance, as well as many LEO showed up.

I have ridden ROC, I have been in a few videos, and I am friends with many of the stunters, so I am not someone that doesn't understand.

I also own real estate as mentioned by JOSxxxx. If I have a commercial building that is vacant and I see people practicing, I am going to ignore it unless the LEO contact me about it. At that point if the same situation happens as what happened at our spot, I will promptly be sued because the LEO informed me and I didn't prevent this.

Also to consider because I have already been on the receiving end of this. If a LEO sees you stunting on a lot and you have permission from the owner ON WRITING, and the owner is ON SITE, they can still write you for Careless and Imprudent. Been there done that.

And when you run from him there are basically 3 outcomes:
1. You die trying (RIP ZACH and Dustin and others)
2. You get caught and likely get tossed in jail (right Scott? ;-) )
3. You get away and make the rest of us on sport bikes look like we are all irresponsible runners.

For the love of Pete, get your XSBA or equivelant license and become a stunt rider/competitor and not someone that rides illegally. If you have a passion for it you will respect your sport and find a way to do it right. Become the next Dan Jackson.

[t-rock]

your a ****ing tool! why the **** do you need plates or insurance on a "lot" bike?if its not on public streets, it doesnt require that ****. no wonder nobody posts on this board. you guys talk **** on anyone who isnt part of the kickstand crew. **** YOU! **** THIS SITE! **** THE POLICE! Stay out of the stunt section if you DONT stunt.
BACK TO STUNTRIDE.COM I GO!!!!!!!!

so why did you even get back on here? should have stayed gone.

[BRAD]

I'm definitely not anti stunter. I am anti irresponsible. Get it?

[BRAD]

your a ****ing tool! why the **** do you need plates or insurance on a "lot" bike?if its not on public streets, it doesnt require that ****. no wonder nobody posts on this board. you guys talk **** on anyone who isnt part of the kickstand crew. **** YOU! **** THIS SITE! **** THE POLICE! Stay out of the stunt section if you DONT stunt.
BACK TO STUNTRIDE.COM I GO!!!!!!!!


This brings me back
I remember my first internet whine session.

[SpeedyCycles]

I think you just spoke for the entire board, including many other stunt riders.

I was recently contacted by a long time talented stunt rider and promotor of the sport and he said (Paraphrased) 'We all have done stupid sh!t, and when one person acted irresponsible he just about messed up something very big for all of us, and it pisses me off'.

[BRAD]

I stunt with my mind, performing stoppies using a keyboard. **** the FCC.

Now run and tell that.

[patdcop]

Posting no DL................................................ .......Free
Postin no tags or insurance.....................................Free
Posting pic of bike in "about me" for cops to see.........Free
Posting will run from cops ......................................Free

Middle name Darwin............................................ ...Priceless

[Unregistered Mac User]

Ok, I'm certainly no stunter, and most of the stunters I've seen appear to be complete dumbass jackwads.

HOWEVER...

I've also seen plenty of pictures of bikes loaded up in trucks and on trailers, taken to the stunt spot for practice. This method seems to be more common now that it was a few years ago. If the stunt bike is being loaded up, taken to the practice area (privately owned), loaded back up, and brought home...then the no insurance, no tags, no registration thing isn't really an issue, IMO. The no DL issue (I guess I didn't realize that had been mentioned as well) is only an issue if the OP is driving the transport vehicle.

Given that the OP got all defensive about it, I suspect he's probably riding the bike to the practice spot. However, even I'm willing to concede that some of the local stunters seem to have "pulled it together", and figured out a legal way to transport the bikes.

[IQRaceworks]

If anyone wants to take their bike to a stunt spot and doesn't have a way to get it there "legally", I would be more than happy to help out..I've got a trailer will hold a few bikes......just need to figure out a day to do it, and if the location is an "approved" one. I don't want to get in trouble for trespassing or anything.....

[SpeedyCycles]

If anyone wants to take their bike to a stunt spot and doesn't have a way to get it there "legally", I would be more than happy to help out..I've got a trailer will hold a few bikes......just need to figure out a day to do it, and if the location is an "approved" one. I don't want to get in trouble for trespassing or anything.....

That is quite chivalrous of you Ian. The sad part is the only "approved" spots will require specific event insurance and typically an event permit. I could give someone permission to stunts on my property, and they are still at risk of a C & I.

[wooley]

That is quite chivalrous of you Ian. The sad part is the only "approved" spots will require specific event insurance and typically an event permit. I could give someone permission to stunts on my property, and they are still at risk of a C & I.

This is prejudice do they do the same thing to MX riders, how come Chadwick can do what they do? Whats the difference I mean really. A dedicated stunt bike being transported to a stunt area and a dirt bike being transported to and off road area. Are you going to tell me that all dirt riders have DL's Insurance ect ect. I don't think so. Lightin up peeps if they are trying to keep it on the lot **** off.

[Unregistered Mac User]

That is quite chivalrous of you Ian. The sad part is the only "approved" spots will require specific event insurance and typically an event permit. I could give someone permission to stunts on my property, and they are still at risk of a C & I.

Was the CNI ticket upheld by the court?

[I8URV8]

I have a DL, I have a way to transport it (other than riding it) but that wasn't the issue i was posting (therefore didn't really feel the need to answer it). Just trying to find a safe spot to practice, you can't go pro unless you are a pro. . .i'm not, therefore need a practice spot, it's pretty simple, people like to ***** at other people, that's not what i'm here for. . . .
I've already talked to the local sheriff's office, on private property with permission (written) from the property owner and a liability release the police can't do anything, i've confirmed this with the state police as well. . so there goes that.

as far as the name calling, grow up. . .i don't really care if you don't like me or whatever cause i'm not in high school, but calling me a faggot crosses the line. I had a friend that "came out of the closet" and ended up getting beat so bad he spent a month in the hospital, I found the guy that did it and returned the favor, so go **** yourself.

You people are rediculous, a simple post, simple question. . .The whole point was so i "Don't end up running" because i don't want to, i know the implications, therefore i'm looking for somewhere where it won't happen, it's simple english that even a child would understand.

As far as i'm concerned this post can die, or get locked, since most people just want to get on here and ***** anyway.

[Unregistered Mac User]

nJust trying to find a safe spot to practice, you can't go pro unless you are a pro. . .i'm not, therefore need a practice spot, it's pretty simple,[/quote]

I can understand, and appreciate that. I actually appreciate your post for what it is. I'm usually pretty anti-stunter (as I've seen too much stupid sh!t on the highway), but I appreciate your intentions.

as far as the name calling, grow up. . .i don't really care if you don't like me or whatever cause i'm not in high school, but calling me a faggot crosses the line. I had a friend that "came out of the closet" and ended up getting beat so bad he spent a month in the hospital, I found the guy that did it and returned the favor, so go **** yourself.

I agree. This site has been overrun by a group ****-heads, and I think it's to the detriment of the site as a whole. I've witnessed numerous new members berated and run off of the site, as well as legitimate questions become a catalyst for e-thuggery. This is a bunch of ****.

it's simple english that even a child would understand.

That's part of the problem. It seems the behavioral age of the typical "active" SWMO poster has dropped to about...oh...say, 8th grade. Trying to have any sort of on-topic discussion is dragged down into the poo-flinging realm of these "regulars".

[SpeedyCycles]

[QUOTE=Wooley;459817]

This is prejudice do they do the same thing to MX riders, how come Chadwick can do what they do? Whats the difference I mean really. A dedicated stunt bike being transported to a stunt area and a dirt bike being transported to and off road area. Are you going to tell me that all dirt riders have DL's Insurance ect ect. I don't think so. Lightin up peeps if they are trying to keep it on the lot **** off.

Wooley, I asked the Municipal prosecutor if I was in my Ford Explorer ON my own land drifting if I could be written and he told me that is one of only two reasons they could go onto priviate property to write a citation. Careless and Imprudent.

The DL, insurance, tags etc are irrelevant as far as I understand. If they feel you are endangering yourself of others, you can be cited. Even on a dirtbike. How likely is this to happen? Not very likely. But if there is a reported injury, I suspect you will be sited 90% of the time.

I am not saying not to do it, I am just letting you know my experience and understanding of the laws.

This is separate all together. I was cited for driving in circles in the snow on the church parking lot that my family attends... WITH permission. You know what Lt. Ben King told me in front of my 8 year old? "I don't give a **** whose permission you have. You cannot drive like that! And you are endangering a child! You will need someone to pick up your son because you will be going to jail." I received the C&I and he said I was lucky he didn't write me for anything else or take me to jail. Juss Sayin.


Was the CNI ticket upheld by the court?

I understand it was just paid and not brought to trial. Were you with us when Justin was stunting my old R1 in Branson on the lot with the owner there and almost got taken to jail?

[Unregistered Mac User]

I understand it was just paid and not brought to trial. Were you with us when Justin was stunting my old R1 in Branson on the lot with the owner there and almost got taken to jail?

As you are aware, the police can -write- a ticket for about anything they want, justified or not, within their jurisdiction or not, etc etc. Whether it's upheld by the court is a completely different matter. I've heard from more than one cop, "Write 'em up, and let the court sort it out." They know most people won't / can't fight it. When people -do- start fighting it, and these tickets start getting thrown out / dismissed, and cops start getting reprimanded by the judges for wasting the court's time...then you may see an on-the-street change as well.

[wooley]

I still think its wrong. I mean drag racers have a place, dirt riders have a place, BMX has a place(and I believe its even on city property), skate boarders have a place(And I believe the last I heard the city is teying to take it over). I mean the list just goes on and on RC guys have a place ect ect ect. So why can't there be a place for stunters to practice their "hobby" with out being harassed?

[I8URV8]

just figured i would add that careless and imprudent could be anything, if you are doing some target practice and they don't think your backstop is good enough they can site you for cni, although in that case i'm sure they'd charge with something a little worse.

bottom line, on a bike, with safety gear, on private property with permission and a liability waiver where you take on all liability of your actions, there's not a bunch of parked cars around or something like that, they really can't do anything, ofcourse they can write the ticket, they could write you a ticket for chewing gum if they really wanted. but the courts will not uphold the ticket if you have your documents in order.

Ofcourse there are cases where a judge follows their own beliefs instead of the law, but you risk those types of things just walking accross the street.

[Unregistered Mac User]

I still think its wrong. I mean drag racers have a place, dirt riders have a place, BMX has a place(and I believe its even on city property), skate boarders have a place(And I believe the last I heard the city is teying to take it over). I mean the list just goes on and on RC guys have a place ect ect ect. So why can't there be a place for stunters to practice their "hobby" with out being harassed?

Because, unlike those other groups you mention above, nobody has lobbied the city / county for it (ala BMX racetrack, skatepark), and / or built it as a private enterprise (drag race track). Where is this RC place you speak of? I know of no publicly funded places to race RC cars, though I do manage to get by flying my foamie park-fliers at Chesterfield Family Center park. The only RC car racing places I know of are privately funded (guy's back yard, a new for-profit track that's opened in the NW corner of town, etc).

Basically, all these other groups have "a place" because they've lobbied local government for it, or they've actually taken matters into their own hands and built a facility for themselves. I don't think the stunter community has risen to this level of organization or planning.

[H2]

I don't think the stunter community has risen to this level of organization or planning.

In Springfield MO, No. ScottieD (Notorious1) has done a great job of getting a place for riders in Branson, and it is even a stop on the AFS tour. However, the "stunter community" is making a rise, whether you know it or not. There are stunt parks going up (literally), as we type.

[Unregistered Mac User]

In Springfield MO, No. ScottieD (Notorious1) has done a great job of getting a place for riders in Branson, and it is even a stop on the AFS tour. However, the "stunter community" is making a rise, whether you know it or not. There are stunt parks going up (literally), as we type.

I'm not referring the national stunt community, but rather the local one. I should have clarified. It sounds like there -is- a "safe haven" for local stunters...in Branson. Problem solved!

If you want a similar place in Springfield, it sounds like it's time to contact Scott, as he would seem to have a track record of getting things done. To be honest, I'm surprised Frank hasn't gotten involved in this as well, but the needs of the stunting community may not rise high enough on his priority list.

This is what I'm talking about, Wooley. Just crying out "that isn't fair!" isn't good enough. And no private entity or government entity will just "hand out" free crap. Cases have to be presented, business plans presented, or simply someone with enough balls to ruffle feathers long enough for it to happen. Persistence is your friend in matters like this. I've not seen this type of behavior from local stunters, who seem content to ride wheelies down Battlefield.

BTW...note to the stunting community...the dumbazzes doing stunts down Battlefield / Glenstone are NOT going to help your cause, if / when you decide to petition the city / county for sites, permits, etc etc.

[I8URV8]

I think the people doing it down battlefield might actually help. . .if there's enough of a need, we might be able to convince the city to either sponsor a place, or approve the permits for one. . .show them that people are doing it illegally because they don't have a legal spot to do it.

Hell just a nice flat paved spot at a park would be nice.

Kind of like how drag racing started. it used to be all street races, then they moved out to the desert and places like that, it was still illegal. Once it got big enough, permits were approved, if nothing else, just to keep them off the street.

We just need a figure head. Which might be tough. That's actually one of my plans once i'm finished with school and get some decent pay. Granted that will be a few years from now. But it's in my top 5 list of things to do after a house and other family oriented stuff.

I'm already working on a spot a little closer to me, but we're not sure how it'll turn out just yet.

[Unregistered Mac User]

If you're looking for a spot at this time, I think you'll have to look for something that is locally owned / operated / managed. I think the user base is too small and fringe at this point for a local government agency to get involved. Not to mention the liability aspects, which I'm sure they want to avoid.

Large areas that are owned / managed / operated by non-local entities (think Grizzly parking lot, etc) are unlikely to knowingly give their permission, as the corporate lawyers would shoot that down in a heartbeat. Back to the liability aspect. Even if you provide a waiver, with no "upside" to the land owner (ie, fees, promotion, exposure, etc), then it's all "downside" (liability, public perception, property damage / defacement, etc). Again, they're probably not going to go along, even if it doesn't -hurt- them...mostly because it doesn't -help- them, and they already have enough headaches.

Which brings you to a locally owned / managed / operated spot. This would ideally be a facility where you could give your proposal to the actual person in charge of said parcel. They may be swayed by a local need / usage / case that wouldn't sway a larger company, or government agency. They may simply be sympathetic to your plight, or they may be willing to accept some sort of supplied insurance as "sufficient" to cover their potential liability. In short, I think you'll be able to convince a private, locally managed facility much easier than a governmental agency or a non-locally managed facility.

[BRAD]

And when a sanctioned place to play is made available, I'll be an active ninja

[Unregistered Mac User]

And when a sanctioned place to play is made available, I'll be an active ninja

And that's my point...it's unlikely that a place will just be "made available" because some property owner has a vision in their dreams. That's mostly a Hollywood creation. ;)

http://s1.moviefanfare.com/uploads/2010/10/Field-of-Dreams-Team4.jpg

Those who want a place will have to work to -make- one available. Some will be active and put forth effort in achieving this goal, others will be "supportive" verbally and with posts, but offer little practical assistance.

[I8URV8]

My new PM "Change the avatar and loose the attitude."

Wow, i honestly didn't realize i was the one beeing a **** to everyone. . i was just using a forum for what it's for. discussion and asked a simple question. . .I admit, i got a little attitude after beeing dumped on for no (real) reason and called a faggot. . .surely that needs a little more attention that whatever it was that i did. . .anyway. . .to please the powers that be. . .i changed my avatar to a pumpkin ****ting out pumkin pie, hope that a little better for you. lol

[IQRaceworks]

I still think its wrong. I mean drag racers have a place, dirt riders have a place, BMX has a place(and I believe its even on city property), skate boarders have a place(And I believe the last I heard the city is teying to take it over). I mean the list just goes on and on RC guys have a place ect ect ect. So why can't there be a place for stunters to practice their "hobby" with out being harassed?

I agree with you.....

The one thing that sticks out in my minds is that a "typical" RC car racer, "typical" drag racer, and a "typical" bmx rider do not cause nearly as much trouble and mischief as a "typical" stunter.

The "public" has a bad taste in it's mouth when it comes to stunters, and even just plain old sportbike riders. They don't have that feeling about RC car drivers, RC plane flyers, Drag Racers, and all the other groups.

Sad thing is...as long as there are guys out there running from the cops, riding wheelies down the street, and just acting stupid out on the street....it's probably always going to be like that.

[I8URV8]

I agree, which is why my original post was asking if anyone knew of a spot to practice where these things won't happen.

Where we'd be off the street.
Where we have permission to be there.
Where there will be no need or want to run from the cops.
Where we can be responsible and safe in a controlled environment.

Basically it got blown up out of proportion, and twisted around to sound like i wanted to run from the cops and didn't have a license. . .which isn't true. . .hence the reason for the post.

[IQRaceworks]

My new PM "Change the avatar and loose the attitude."

Wow, i honestly didn't realize i was the one beeing a **** to everyone. . i was just using a forum for what it's for. discussion and asked a simple question. . .I admit, i got a little attitude after beeing dumped on for no (real) reason and called a faggot. . .surely that needs a little more attention that whatever it was that i did. . .anyway. . .to please the powers that be. . .i changed my avatar to a pumpkin ****ting out pumkin pie, hope that a little better for you. lol

Just like Brandon and others have pointed out, the site has been overrun with lots of jerks that love to jump on someone every chance they get. They have that high-school mentality, and it's really sucking the forums down the toilet.

There are several great guys on the site, but unfortunately they don't get on here much because of the same reasons you are getting fed up with. The mods haven't really cracked down on the trouble makers, and that's why they seem to continue to overrun the site...and chase the decent people off.

Don't get frustrated....you just have to ignore the guys that cause the trouble...and you know who they are. I've been on here for 7 years.....and over the last several years the site has just started going down hill. I still like getting on here....it's just that now I'm having to get used to being called a faggot, c*ck $moker, Idiot, a$$hole, and what every else names they (I think you know who) throw at people.

Pretty childish.......but what are you going to do?

[Unregistered Mac User]

Pretty childish.......but what are you going to do?

Make it such a PITA for the mods / admins that they'll either ban me, or address the root issue. Either way, their stance on the problem will be made known. ;)

[IQRaceworks]

I agree, which is why my original post was asking if anyone knew of a spot to practice where these things won't happen.

Where we'd be off the street.
Where we have permission to be there.
Where there will be no need or want to run from the cops.
Where we can be responsible and safe in a controlled environment.

Basically it got blown up out of proportion, and twisted around to sound like i wanted to run from the cops and didn't have a license. . .which isn't true. . .hence the reason for the post.

If it was me, and I was looking for a place to stunt...I would think that the best option would be to see who is posting in the stunting section, and PM them. See where they go, and when they go.

At least that way you are getting first hand info, and you don't have to worry about everyone else chiming in and just clogging up the flow of information. Just PM some of the stunters on the site, I'm sure they would be glad to help you out :D

[I8URV8]

i hear ya. . .and now i see why there was only one post in the stunt section. . .

btw, the pm i got was from a mod. . . . i guess i'm not welcome here. . .even though i'm trying to be responsible. . . .

anyway, yeah i've recieved a few pm's from beeing that are actually helpfull, so thanks guys.

[Unregistered Mac User]

If it was me, and I was looking for a place to stunt...I would think that the best option would be to see who is posting in the stunting section, and PM them. See where they go, and when they go.

At least that way you are getting first hand info, and you don't have to worry about everyone else chiming in and just clogging up the flow of information. Just PM some of the stunters on the site, I'm sure they would be glad to help you out :D

Again, another symptom of the problem. Why should a poster feel relegated to using PM's, because they fear being attacked by a post in an open forum / section? The very fact that this is being suggested as a viable "resolution" tells me there's a problem with the site.

[I8URV8]

and in the stunt section of all places. . . .

my question "why is there a stunt section?"

since you can't really talk about stunting on this site. . .it is a sportbike site. . .people do stunts on sportbikes. . .hey they have a stunt section. . . .FAIL

[SpeedyCycles]

I think you can talk about stunt riding on here. Technical aspects, recommendations on bikes, parts, etc. No matter what forum you are in, if you post anything about running from the cops, you are going to catch hell for it ;)

If I were in your shoes, I would contact Scottie D on here an find a good session and drive to it. Likely he has a good set up that you can make a Sunday of driving down and taking turns getting better at what you want to do.

He is also involved in the Amatuer level of competition so you don't necc have to be a pro to compete.

I have talked with Scott about it a lot, and he is not a talker, he gets it done. And it is interesting to see his attitude about stunting evolve from bragging about running and FTP to a much more commendable state. Kudos man.

[BRAD]

I have talked with Scott about it a lot, and he is not a talker, he gets it done. And it is interesting to see his attitude about stunting evolve from bragging about running and FTP to a much more commendable state. Kudos man.


Big fat +1

[I8URV8]

that's good advice. . . like i said before, i don't really know anyone here since i'm relatively new to the area and thought this would be a good place to start (apparently not). . .

and just to be clear, i never said anything about FTP, and never bragged about anything at all, especially running from the cops. . .i said i wanted a controlled environment where that wouldn't even be thought. I think that's why myself and some others don't understand why the bs started to begin with. . .

Then someone said I'm posting about:

not having a license-false, i actually have a motorcycle license
running from the cops-false, i said i didn't want to
not having tags and insurance-true, i don't, nor do i need it for what i'm doing
riding on the street without said tags and insurance-false, while i have done this, and probably will again, it's not the point, nor is it a habit, just didn't feel the need to get it now since i'll be putting the bike up before too long anyway, and i do have a truck, and a trailer for that matter and not doing much street riding right now.

I'm one of those people that welcome good advice, but I'm not into the bragging rights, the drama, or anything else like that. . .

The reason i say you can't really talk about it here is pretty clear. I was asking a simple question. Other members turned it into something it's not. Putting words in my mouth and turning my words around to make them into the opposite of what was said. So, no, unfortunately you really can't do much with stunting on here. . .

So i guess even if you make a post that says, "I'm looking for a place to practice, not on the street, i don't want a ticket and i do NOT want to run from the cops. any ideas?"

you would still catch hell. since that's pretty much what i did. since if you are stunting on the street or without permission from the land owner you have two choices:

1. get a ticket
2. try to outrun them

Neither one of those choices suit me.

Like i said before, not running from the police, controlled environment with permission from the owner, safe place to practice without beeing on a public streets, that was the whole reason to start the post in the first place.

[BRAD]

You have a skewed way of looking at it. I'll help you.


Hi, I'm __________. I'd like to be/get more involved with the local stunt crowd, maybe get out and meet some of the folks. Any scoops on suitable, legal places to practice?

Your responses would have likely been very positive.

If you post even the hint of illegal activity on a LOCAL forum of any kind.........especially with the conservative, older base this one has......you have to expect some ball breakin. If you're not thick skinned to handle said ball breaking, after having posted some of those above things......then you're probably not in the right sport, and certainly not in the right environment here.

[I8URV8]

I don't think I'm that skewed. Maybe not the best word choice, i'll admit that.
Yet, what i posted was pretty clear about what i didn't want. Which included running from the police (as something that i didn't want).

I think I've been pretty clear about everything I've said.

don't you think that maybe the problem is a post beeing skewed by others. . .seems more like someone mis-interpreted something because they didn't take the time to understand what was posted. Then they, and some others, let their personal prejudices influence them in a way that led them to mis-quote and try to start some drama for no reason.

I have thick enough skin to deal with negativity, I don't really let it get to me. I was just surprised at the blatent dis-regard for others, the obvious mis-quoting, and the straight up making stuff up and claiming that it was said by me.

I think I'm in the right sport, maybe not in the right environment here though.

[BRAD]

If you don't want to run from the cops..........Don't. That's all.

Get some insurance.........why not? It's not just covering your assets, it's covering mine too in case you lose the bike and it winds up in my back seat or my place of business that I've worked my ass off to own. Surely if you accidentally destroyed someone's property you wouldn't.....bail........right?

Nah, you wouldn't.

[I8URV8]

[QUOTE=BRAD;460007]If you don't want to run from the cops..........Don't. That's all.QUOTE]

great, now we're almost on the same page. I've never ran from the cops in my life, nor do i plan to.

But i don't want to start getting a bunch tickets either. . . .once again, the reason for the post.

as far as the insurance, in the near future, the bike will be put up for the winter, just transported it here recently so haven't had any need for insurance. using it as a lot bike it's not required, since it won't be used on the street.

once again like i have already said, a good stunt spot, one where there's not a bunch of cars parked everywhere and all that good stuff. hence once again, no need for the insurance since the only thing that might get hurt is my own bike. nothing to hit, no need for the insurance.

Since you feel the need to be an antagonist, i'll put your mind at ease.

No I wouldn't damage someone's property and then just take off. Cause i'm a man not a little *****. I take care of what I need to. I have my own things that I've worked for, I know how it goes. I've owned my own business before so. . .anyway. . .why don't we lose the attitudes, and stop trying to make this into something it's not.

Catching hell for trying beeing responsible, wow, nice guys.

I've known people like you before, needless to say i distanced myself from them. Get off your high horse, just because you think you know better than everyone else doesn't mean you actually do. Not trying to start any drama, i don't know you personally or even by all of your posts, only what you've said in this one. Just think maybe you are the one with a skewed view point. I understand what you're saying about the insurance, but for what i'm looking for it's not needed, it's that simple. If i had the liquidity in my assets i would just pave a nice big spot here at the house and be done with it. we already have plenty of trails for the dirt toys and plenty of space. It's just not feasible right now. Maybe i'll do that in the future, then i won't have to deal with the people that just want to hassle everyone else.

[wooley]

If you don't want to run from the cops..........Don't. That's all.

Get some insurance.........why not? It's not just covering your assets, it's covering mine too in case you lose the bike and it winds up in my back seat or my place of business that I've worked my ass off to own. Surely if you accidentally destroyed someone's property you wouldn't.....bail........right?

Nah, you wouldn't.


Get real people don't put insurance on their dirt bikes I havn't and won't insure my drag bike I don't know of anyone insureing their 50 ( and they are legal for street).

[BRAD]

I have insurance on mine.........real enough?

[BRAD]

[QUOTE=BRAD;460007]If you don't want to run from the cops..........Don't. That's all.QUOTE]

great, now we're almost on the same page. I've never ran from the cops in my life, nor do i plan to.

But i don't want to start getting a bunch tickets either. . . .once again, the reason for the post.

as far as the insurance, in the near future, the bike will be put up for the winter, just transported it here recently so haven't had any need for insurance. using it as a lot bike it's not required, since it won't be used on the street.

once again like i have already said, a good stunt spot, one where there's not a bunch of cars parked everywhere and all that good stuff. hence once again, no need for the insurance since the only thing that might get hurt is my own bike. nothing to hit, no need for the insurance.

Since you feel the need to be an antagonist, i'll put your mind at ease.

No I wouldn't damage someone's property and then just take off. Cause i'm a man not a little *****. I take care of what I need to. I have my own things that I've worked for, I know how it goes. I've owned my own business before so. . .anyway. . .why don't we lose the attitudes, and stop trying to make this into something it's not.

Catching hell for trying beeing responsible, wow, nice guys.

I've known people like you before, needless to say i distanced myself from them. Get off your high horse, just because you think you know better than everyone else doesn't mean you actually do. Not trying to start any drama, i don't know you personally or even by all of your posts, only what you've said in this one. Just think maybe you are the one with a skewed view point. I understand what you're saying about the insurance, but for what i'm looking for it's not needed, it's that simple. If i had the liquidity in my assets i would just pave a nice big spot here at the house and be done with it. we already have plenty of trails for the dirt toys and plenty of space. It's just not feasible right now. Maybe i'll do that in the future, then i won't have to deal with the people that just want to hassle everyone else.


I'm certain you've been right the whole time.

[I8URV8]

I have insurance on mine.........real enough?

really, you have insurance on your stunt bike that you don't ride on the street? nice.

[wooley]

I have insurance on mine.........real enough?

If you wasn't planning on rideing it on the street you wouldn't.;)

[wooley]

Supermoto


I don't believe yours is a dedicated stunt bike. LOL

[BRAD]

I hear you. But there aren't any buildings at Chadwick, either :)

But even then.......insurance on a dirtbike is ridiculously cheap, so I'm convinced I still would, to protect against theft and other loss. You'd be surprised at what I carry insurance on........very surprised.

[BRAD]

Supermoto


I don't believe yours is a dedicated stunt bike. LOL


It's not a "dedicated" anything. It will be used for:

Hallett track time
Motocross track days
Chadwick
Blasting 125
Commuting
Errands
Hooliganism
"Stunting"

[wooley]

I hear you. But there aren't any buildings at Chadwick, either :)

But even then.......insurance on a dirtbike is ridiculously cheap, so I'm convinced I still would, to protect against theft and other loss. You'd be surprised at what I carry insurance on........very surprised.

LOL no I probably wouldn't be because you my freind are definatly not the norm.:D

[I8URV8]

exactly, you have insurance on a bike you ride on the street. . . .it's the law.

[SpeedyCycles]

Someone post up some pics and video of yourself stunting. I am in the mood to see some good stuff now!

[flyin hawaiian]

I hear you. But there aren't any buildings at Chadwick, either :)
You'd be surprised at what I carry insurance on........very surprised.

Would you like for me to do a Needs Analysis survey at no cost make sure you and the ones you love are protected as well as your toys are sir!?

[SpeedyCycles]

Brad, that is a generous offer, you better take him up on it! ;)

My "needs analysis" says I "needs" a cheaper premium. Like, equivelant to free.

[flyin hawaiian]

well let me get to work on that quote for ya...............

[wooley]

How about a dirt pic instead.

[srad_steve]

[QUOTE=I8URV8;460009
great, now we're almost on the same page. I've never ran from the cops in my life, nor do i plan to.UM from your post it sounds pretty pre planned to me.. ticket or run?? dont wanna ticket so youl run...

But i don't want to start getting a bunch tickets either. . . .once again, the reason for the post.

as far as the insurance, in the near future, the bike will be put up for the winter, just transported it here recently so haven't had any need for insurance. using it as a lot bike it's not required,WRONG there is this thing called Property damage you need insurance
no need for the insurance.
Since you feel the need to be an antagonist, i'll put your mind at ease.


Catching hell for trying beeing responsibleWOW you dont sound responsible to me run or ticket? no plates no insurance hmmmm not so much, wow, nice guys.

I've known people like you before,QUOTE]You must not know Brad. i will for one say he is a very stand up guy. he has helped many many people including myself he is a good and loyal friend to many of us here. You should get to know him before you pass judgement. And as far as him being a KNOW IT ALL damn he knows alot amd he has a head full of knowladge.. I wish i knew half as much

Now as far as think skin goes yes you have to have it.. I have taken alot of flack from people here some welcomed and some i could do with out and some i flat brought onto myself.. just ask Blackness he'l tell you im sure.. and yes. Im a Police Officer so what I have a job just like everyone else yes some of what your saying if i were to stop you and you gave me the attitude your putting on here YOU SIR would be in for a long night.. Get legal. even for a lot i know alot of these guys have the right paperwork. And yes some dont.. And keep in mind things will turn out way better for you in the end even if you dont have the right papers if you STOP and dont have an attitude.

I have not been an Officervery long and i have already learned alot not only about the job but about myself and how i was making myslef look.. and i can tell you your making yourself look like a real Jack A$$

Side note... Tommy i need some life insurance lol

[flyin hawaiian]

Steve do you have my num

[wooley]

Insurance sucks. I pay for it on what I have to. Renters insurance didn't do me any good. The pop up is toast and they said its not covered. BS

[flyin hawaiian]

Ya know what sucks even worse, i specialize in the one insurance you are guaranteed to use and never see!

[t-rock]

yeah. i hate insurance. all of the agents are lying stealing douche bags.

[flyin hawaiian]

dont forget pot-smoking, interweb trolls

[t-rock]

dont forget pot-smoking, interweb trolls

thought that was a given.

[JOS51700]

eat a ****, faggot.

Pardner, I've only met you a few times and I'm going to keep my general opinions of you to myself, but I'm going offer a bit of advice; if you keep up this tough-talk on the net, someone is going to track you down, knock out your teeth, and literally make you eat those words.

If you still think you're hot ****, you might do a search and realize that I had to make a very similar statement to Mickey, once. You DO realize that, at this point, you're not too far removed from acting like Mickey, right? You might want to think about that one.

[JOS51700]

And I wholly support stunting when performed in a safe and responsible manner.

[I8URV8]

[QUOTE=srad_steve;460045][QUOTE=I8URV8;460009
great, now we're almost on the same page. I've never ran from the cops in my life, nor do i plan to.UM from your post it sounds pretty pre planned to me.. ticket or run?? dont wanna ticket so youl run...

i've said it plenty of times, that ticket or run are the two options if you are stunting where you don't have permission to do it. . .which is what I want to avoid. . .i don't know why it's so hard to understand, i think i've been pretty clear, but i'll say it again

I do NOT want a ticket, and I do NOT want to and have NEVER ran from the police.

clear enough?

as far as me looking like a jack a$$. . .i'm really get tired of trying to explain something that should be really clear. . .so whatever, i guess i'm a jack a$$ for trying to be responsible here. . .

as far as brad. . .i already said i don't know him. . .he's obviously somewhat intelligent, i was ONLY speaking of what he's said in this post. . .nothing else, which i also thought was pretty clear. . .as far as liability on a lot bike, not saying it's useless, only that it's not required by law. . .which it's not, whether you're a cop or not, you know that insurance is only required on something you have a loan on, and something you use on the street. that's it.

[BRAD]

Speaking of weather. It's supposed to get damned cold tomorrow!

[SpeedyCycles]

It is supposed to be pretty bad today also.

[I8URV8]

In the spirit of getting along. . .I think it's pretty darn cold today. . .tomorrow's going to be bad. . .i pictured icicles on my beard after hearing the weather report.